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Post by Muracatun on Jul 6, 2005 15:19:40 GMT 1
Yes, I wouln´d have let him go back into the car, that´s for sure. *lol* I think your German was quiet good. I was amazed! I mean I expected you to talk English and then your started to talk in German. WOW. The only mistake I noticed is that you called us (the group) "Sie" and not "Ihr" or sometimes you did not say "Du" but "Sie". You know just like in Dutch saying "U" instead of "je" or "jullie". But that was all okay. Hihi I see i know you already a bit Yeah, I used to say Sie and so always, but I got some complains about it that I should say Du, and since then its a mess.
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Post by SingleTunePoet on Jul 6, 2005 15:24:28 GMT 1
*lol* Never you mind anyway, everyone got your German pretty good I think.
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Post by Muracatun on Jul 6, 2005 15:38:41 GMT 1
*lol* Never you mind anyway, everyone got your German pretty good I think. Thank you. Hope to hear more of your dutch the next time hihi. You shouldn't be afraid of speaking it I am sure its not bad
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Post by Loggie on Jul 6, 2005 18:01:44 GMT 1
I hate to rain oin the parade but..... My wife and I attended the concert in Bonn and I must say we were disappointed. I know the Coors put on fantastic live concerts (I treasure the Lansdowne road, Albert Hall & Wembley Stadium DVDs) but the Bonn concert was an unmitigated mess. We went hoping to see a seasoned, polished band and what we witnessed was a small orchestra of wandering musicians. Why was the untalented Jason Duffy added? The band lost so much with C not playing drums. Breathless was a horrible disaster with Jason missing all four of the key drum rolls that make the song such a winner. He bangs and crashes but hasn’t the touch of C. It was very sad to see her sitting behind a snare drum and a couple of tom toms (not even a base drum in sight) tapping away on a cow bell. . The band seems to be unsure of their direction and my recommendation would be to get rid of the excess baggage (Jason Duffy and the additional keyboard player...what was that all about???). I would seriously consider eliminating Anto and let Jim be the true lead guitar. If C no longer is interested in performing as a first class drummer she should perhaps move to the base guitar and Patrick could be released. C is a talented musician and could adapt to the base easily (look what she has done with the drums). A new talented drummer (certainly not Jason) could then be added. An attractive female would be a plus. I would definitely replace the manager and focus on what got them famous (The Corrs). Consideration should be given to have the group’s most talented musician (Jim) play a greater role in the band. How about a solo (vocal) from Jim? Consider one or two numbers with Sharon playing the Guitar? I love the Corrs and will continue to purchase all their albums. Let’s hope another US tour is in the plans as the first was handicapped without C. Prior to tackling the fickle US market, however, we need a full-scale cleanup of the excess baggage. Loggie....The oldest Coors fan on the planet
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Post by DazedOblivion on Jul 8, 2005 3:32:51 GMT 1
Loggie, Loggie! You can't be serious!! You make a few good points, but I must respectfully disagree with you on most. Regarding the actual concert, I can only say that I am sorry that you and your wife were disappointed. More than that I cannot say, since I wasn't there. I would have gladly taken your place!!! ;D I hate to rain oin the parade. You're not just "raining on the parade," you're taking a fire hose to it! I know the Coors put on fantastic live concerts (I treasure the Lansdowne road, Albert Hall & Wembley Stadium DVDs) but the Bonn concert was an unmitigated mess. We went hoping to see a seasoned, polished band and what we witnessed was a small orchestra of wandering musicians. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but yours is the first such opinion that I have read, and you are definitely in the minority! Other than you, all reports have been complimentary to the band's performance in Bonn. Yes, since they had just started performing live only five days before Bonn gig, they may not have worked out ALL the musical "kinks" - I'll grant you that. But I have heard only good things from people whose opinions I respect. You make good points regarding Caroline's drumming. I also would prefer her to be drumming but, if you have watched the Wembley concert, especially the isolated camera angles on Caroline, you know how physically and athletically demanding it is, even when one is NOT a new mother with two small children who demand her time! Also if you "treasure" the Lansdowne Road and Live in London DVDs (and Unplugged DVD, for that matter), you would know that Anthony "Anto" Drennan has been involved as a guitarist with the Corrs for many years! He is a great guitarist and certainly not "excess baggage." The same is true with Keith Duffy on bass guitar. (By the way, "Patrick Duffy" was the actor who played Bobby Ewing on the 1980's TV Show "Dallas"!). Keith has been a part of the Corrs for many, many years and has contributed greatly to their success, especially in concert. Suggesting that Caroline take over the bass guitar, although I do not doubt her musical capabilities, is just a crazy thought, in my opinion. Regarding Jim on vocals, I too would not mind hearing him on lead vocals for one song. I think he has a good voice (I heard him solo just for a few seconds on "God Only Knows" with Brian Wilson on the Party at the Palace DVD). It would be interesting to hear Jim! I have to disagree with you on getting rid of their manager, John Hughes. It was he that "got them famous" in the first place! It was he, a fine musician in his own right, who stuck to his principles and resisted the pressure from the record executives who believed that, in order for the band to be successful, it must rid itself of the bodhran, violin and tin whistle. I believe that John Hughes was instrumental in preserving and defending the distinctive sound of the Corrs. Just like you, I hope that the Corrs have plans to visit the United States... and with Caroline, too! I see no need for a "a full-scale cleanup of the excess baggage" as you put it. I say let the "fickle U.S. market" be d----d, and let the Corrs continue to make great music!! ;D ;D Anyway, Loggie it was certainly "interesting," to say the least, to read your "fire hose" post! One more thing, Loggie: I know the Coors put on fantastic live concerts ....The oldest Coors fan on the planet. It's CORRS!!! As I am sure you know, "Coors" is the American beer from the Rocky Mountains, hehe. Take care, Loggie! ~Steve
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Post by Loggie on Jul 8, 2005 14:06:57 GMT 1
Touche DO. Yes Corrs not the fairly good tasting U.S. beer Coors and Keith not Patrick...... Anyhow, I've attended dozens of concerts (the Boss, Eagles, Dylan, Stones) but just can't rate the Bonn concert highly. No disagreement with you on Anto's talents as he plays an awesome lead guitar. I know how physically demanding a drummers routine is and the demands of motherhood must be a supreme challenge. It's just sad to see the music industries greatest female drummer sidelined like that. The multiple camera angles of C on the "Live in London" DVD are priceless (I must have watched them a hundred times). I sure hope the CORRS are heading on wards and up wards and that we are not witnessing the beginning of the end. My comment regarding the U.S. echos the band's long standing goal to crack that market. No doubt they can!
Loggie
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Post by DazedOblivion on Jul 8, 2005 14:44:24 GMT 1
I have since watched the video of the Corrs' performance on "Breathless" at the Live 8 concert in Edinburgh. I agree with you, Loggie, that the song is much better with Caroline at the drums.
As I said in the "Let's Discuss Caro's New Role" thread, I am grateful to Jason Duffy for filling in for Caroline, which allowed them to tour last autumn. I am glad that they kept it a "family affair." But personally I would like it if Caro could be the band's primary drummer again!
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Post by Muracatun on Jul 8, 2005 23:41:44 GMT 1
Well if i am honest the Corrs also dont put such a great concert as I once had from Heather Nova. but nevertheless she is way different. She is a small artist, and it was on her birthday, that she gave the concert. which was ofcurse a special thing.
But the Corrs are changing. the FNF and TOC era are past time, and we live in the present. I also love their FNF songs to bit, I think theyre one of their best ones. Tho theyre developing, making decisions which we mostly like, and sadly sometimes don't. But nevertheless I hope this concert wasnt so much not what you expected that youre no longer a real Corrs fan anymore. Their music is still full with Irish sounds, and with the next album, Home, I guess it'll be a bit back to their roots again.
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Post by SingleTunePoet on Jul 19, 2005 23:00:33 GMT 1
I am glad that Dazed answered to to your post frist, Loggie. `Cause now I merely have to agree with him. I have to admit that I did not answer to your post right away because it did freak me out pretty bad. So I had to spend some time to calm down again. You know, it´s one thing if you did not enjoy the concert. That was bad for you and I surley can not understand hw you couldn´t have enjoyed it but well, you obviously went their with your expectations too high. Okay. But it´s something else if you start to make some ridiculous suggestions about how the band would be better. Because, oh wow, Keith and Anto have been with them for so long...they are part of the band! With Jason and Kieran we don´t know, let´s see if they´ll keep them. What made me particularly mad about your post was the fact that you somehow did not seem to know what you are talking about in the first place. I mean calling Keith PATRICK for instance. Or well, yeah those weird suggestions...it´s okay, you have your own opinion, that´s fine but still I had the feeling you did not really think your ideas through.
But well, as said, I do agree with Dazed here.
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Post by Loggie on Jul 22, 2005 6:19:01 GMT 1
Folks,
As a Corrs fan and not a groupie(I don't mean this in a negative context); I feel my comments are unbaised.
I must stand by my views regarding the Bonn concert. As I stated earlier, I’ve attended many live concerts and the Bonn gig was the worst, period. The group has become a mob on stage and Jason and Kieran must go! If ever so talented Caro can no longer function as the group’s drummer or she has more important issues in her life (her dear children), that is certainly understandable. However, she must be replaced with a professional……. not Jason. To expand the band’s uniqueness let Sharon play the guitar on a song or two and have Jim play a greater role. I may concede that Keith and Anto are practically step-Corrs and contribute to the unique sound.
Again, a great band that had a bad night! The situation was exacerbated by too many musicians. If you weren’t at the concert I’m not sure how you can provide substantive comments on their performance? As a base guitar player in the early 70s, I was a passionate musician (at the time). My best friend was our group’s drummer and we spent countless hours attempting to improve our sound. I do have some knowledge on what makes a band click.
The Corrs need a serious re-focus.
Still a huge FAN, Loggie
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Post by DazedOblivion on Jul 22, 2005 13:27:38 GMT 1
Those who DID attend the concert (and, yes, I DIDN'T ) are entitled to their own differing opinions and I respect that! If everybody at a message board agreed about everything all the time, it would get boring! Loggie, I do appreciate the fact that, though you are unashamedly critical of the Bonn performance, you have been so while still being respectful of the Corrs themselves. Thanks for that!
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Post by briana28 on Aug 9, 2005 9:40:01 GMT 1
I am soooo looking forward to a corrs concert... actually I just can't wait.
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Post by Muracatun on Aug 9, 2005 18:23:56 GMT 1
I think after this new album in september (10 years after FNF!!!) they also will tour again so I hope for you you don't have to wait too long
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